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Jo bhi ho, sadar to tabhi bana na jab Pakistani awam kee aksariyat ne us ko sar pe bithaya . awam ko bori sar pe uthane se pehle sochna chahiye ke yeh bori aate kee hai yaa is ke andar "kuch aur" bhara hai
Zia was also made president through referendum by the same awam. Now please dont say that it was fake polling blah blah. Do you think that the incumbent president was elected through transparent votes. He was elected through a secret deal and i assume you do have knowledge of it!
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Zia was also made president through referendum by the same awam. Now please dont say that it was fake polling blah blah. Do you think that the incumbent president was elected through transparent votes. He was elected through a secret deal and i assume you do have knowledge of it!
agar Zia iqtidar pe qabza karne se pehle refrendum kara leta to phir bhi theek tha . aisa kaheen nahin hota ke koi pehle iqtadar pe qabza kare aur phir logun se kahe bolo qabul karte ho yaa
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Have you studied Zia?
I doubt you have not studied him thoroughly.

Government is an authority not a personality dear. If an Authority runs under the supervision of one-eyed, half-minded, and myopic-leader, you may better predict future of the state.

Note: Defend your ideas with logic not with statements. My previous is left unanswered. Kindly address my queries pertaining to Zia regime.



Agreed. Zia was not a leader but destroyer of future posterity of Pakistan.

Exactly, this is what i am saying that government should not be based on single person. You people keep on talking about Bhutto, he was just a person not an institution.

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please tell us about his long term policies, which he made in 11 years of his rule proved beneficial for Pakistan?
1.Zia built the institution of Presidency, strong president is needed for decision making.

2. He laid the foundation of Islamic nizam in Pakistan

3. He purged the banking system of ribah.

4. He promoted Islamic education among the public.

5. He presented the real message of Islam among the common man.

6. He promoted the mujahideen so that Pakistan could be saved from the clutches of Soviet imperialism.
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agar Zia iqtidar pe qabza karne se pehle refrendum kara leta to phir bhi theek tha . aisa kaheen nahin hota ke koi pehle iqtadar pe qabza kare aur phir logun se kahe bolo qabul karte ho yaa
Who says Zia was a usurper? He was a saviour, circumstances forced him to take over, warna mulk toot jata.
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1.Zia built the institution of Presidency, strong president is needed for decision making.

2. He laid the foundation of Islamic nizam in Pakistan

3. He purged the banking system of ribah.

4. He promoted Islamic education among the public.

5. He presented the real message of Islam among the common man.

6. He promoted the mujahideen so that Pakistan could be saved from the clutches of Soviet imperialism.
Sir; I have to admit Zia era will be mentioned as a golden period of Islamic History, next to Khalifa Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz, Haroon-ur-Rasheed and Salahuddin Ayubi . Ab tak to aisi history likh bhi jaani thi, kaash great General Zia achanak haadse main shaheed na hote to aaj Pakistan toote phoote Soviet Union pe hukumat kar raha hota . meri Allah Pak se dua hai ke Pakistani qom ko itni aqal aur shaoor de ke woh apne is azeem leader ke karnamo ko yaad karen, us ke vision ko samajh saken aur us ko khiraj-e-tehseen paish karen (aamin sum aamin)..



magar jab tak itni aqal Allah Pak ata farmayen, we don't miss him
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BTW: Should we discuss, har baar General Elections call karane se pehle aik referendum kara liya jaaye ke awam ko foji hakumat to nahin chahiye . I mean hona to wohi hai jo hona hai, why not make it legal
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1.Zia built the institution of Presidency, strong president is needed for decision making.

2. He laid the foundation of Islamic nizam in Pakistan

3. He purged the banking system of ribah.

4. He promoted Islamic education among the public.

5. He presented the real message of Islam among the common man.

6. He promoted the mujahideen so that Pakistan could be saved from the clutches of Soviet imperialism.
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahh............ dear you right brother Kashif gave you a perfect exp... i have no need further explain it....... for God sake you are a senior member try to avoid such foolish posts.................... what ever you wrote there was not implemented. ..........
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1.Zia built the institution of Presidency, strong president is needed for decision making.

2. He laid the foundation of Islamic nizam in Pakistan

3. He purged the banking system of ribah.

4. He promoted Islamic education among the public.

5. He presented the real message of Islam among the common man.

6. He promoted the mujahideen so that Pakistan could be saved from the clutches of Soviet imperialism.
Zia was a devil's disciple and forgive me to say that you are a devil's advocate.
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Who says Zia was a usurper? He was a saviour, circumstances forced him to take over, warna mulk toot jata.
mulk toot jata ?
pakistan mulk hai ya WC ka dakan?
itna inferiority complex to muj may bhi nai hai !
agar massiah aa hi gayee thay to poori tarah to islam nafiz kartay. islam k mutabiq koray to maray apni hukoomat bachanay k liye per afghanistan say chars lanay walo ko kuch nai kaha shayad wahan bhi he was victim of circumstances.
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Well i sincerely feel that Pakistan needs another person like Zia.Ul.Haq to come and settle the mess created over the past so many years. Members would definitely disagree with me but i feel that strong decision making power is needed at the top. Come what may, Zia did what ever he decided to do, because of a strong command and control system. Today we see chaos and breakdown of government machinery just because of poor management. I like the Machiavellian style of governance shown by Zia and his cohorts. Zia for me is like the Prince of Machiavelli. Public flogging and media controls were best in those times, no body dared to say a word about the regime.
What else is ahead of Heroine, AK 47, destruction of Afghans for the current pity state of affairs in our country? is there anything left to further invite him in country to fully destroy us?
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